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What is better steel or concrete bridges ?

Take in consideration engineering and economical considerations.

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تاريخ النشر: 2017/04/01
Hany Lotfy
من قبل Hany Lotfy , Structural Consultant , EP Engineering Programs

Steel bridges need more maintannce (painting) than concrete bridges

Abdulrahman Al Qahtani
من قبل Abdulrahman Al Qahtani , project engineer , sabic (ibn zaher )

it depends on the situation if you want long span without middle supports and quick construction time go for steel bridge however if the budget is limited go for concrete bridge 

Mushtaq Hussain Mushtaq
من قبل Mushtaq Hussain Mushtaq , Senior Lab Supervisor , Al Mumayaz Laboratory

Though Steel Spans last longer, rebuild able and long life than concrete spans but when span length allows, concrete spans are cheaper than steel spans. Concrete spans has reduced maintenance as compared to steel. Steel spans typically requires periodic painting and cleaning. Concrete is more flexible, allowing for the easy treatment of curved beams, including box girders which excel at withstanding torsion. For long spans, pre-stressed concrete is usually the most efficient choice. When both the initial cost and long term costs are added together, concrete is typically cheaper.

According to the United States National Bridge Inventory, the number of concrete bridges far outstrips the number of steel bridges.

 

Abdelbasset Mnasri
من قبل Abdelbasset Mnasri , Lead Structural Engineer , SINOMA

Concrete is better but limited using, while steel is widely used specially for complicated case.

Mahmoud Ishag
من قبل Mahmoud Ishag , civil engineering supervisor , ministry of interior - Sudan

using steel has it's advantages like long spans and long time span ,low maintainenance and time effective and needs a highly experienced work force .

concrete on the other hand costs considerably less and doesn't require a highly experienced workers 

it's really up to you taking in consideration cost and time to reach a cost effective decision

 

Riyan Ismed
من قبل Riyan Ismed , Structural Design , Mc Dermott

Concrete is cheaper upfront, but steel can be more economical in the long run. Not only outright cost is considered, but also durability, adaptability to the locale, and resistance to climate change

Hassan Mayahi
من قبل Hassan Mayahi , SENIOR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER , CHINA STATE ENGINEERING

Well , it depends  

1- the steel spans last longer then a concrete , concrete will last around to years.

2-concrete is cheaper upfront, but steel can be more economical in the long run. Not only outright cost is considered, but also durability, adaptability to the locale, and resistance to climate change.

3- steel bridges are rebuild able and maintainable and damage in steel structure is easy noticeable 

 

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من قبل abdalla alhaj mohammed zain abdalla mohammed zain , مهندس مدني , أعمال المثلات الهندسية

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What’s better, steel or concrete? The item came up during a recent Senate inquiry on the President’s bridge program (PBP).

A quick research on the Internet and interviews with government and private engineers and economists yielded common points. Concrete is cheaper upfront, but steel can be more economical in the long run. Not only outright cost is considered, but also durability, adaptability to the locale, and resistance to climate change:

• Steel spans last longer than concrete ones. Those built by eight mostly European firms under the PBP are rated for 80-100 years. Concrete has a maximum lifespan of only 40 years — or the soonest earthquake, typhoon, or raging flood. The bill comes up double to build two consecutive 40-year-lifespan bridges.

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• Steel bridges are re-buildable. In 2008 the swollen river from Typhoon Frank washed away a newly built steel span in Alimodian, Iloilo. With no special tools, the townsfolk salvaged components of the bridge and reconstructed it themselves, calling the new span the “Love Bridge.” Only rubble remains from a collapsed concrete bridge. In this country that’s sixth most at risk from climate change (Maplecroft Report), storms knock down about 10,000 lineal meters of bridges each year. The Department of Public Works and Highways is turning more and more to steel technology.

• Damage to a steel structure is easily noticeable. It should surface after a thorough inspection post-calamity, with no special tools save for a good pair of eyes and a flashlight. Such damaged part can be repaired or replaced. In contrast, cracks in the inflexible concrete can compromise the structure and void the rated lifespan. Usually damage may not be perceptible, until it sags or collapses. Also hidden are poor workmanship, and substandard materials like undersized re-bars.

• Short steel bridges take only days to piece together; longer ones take weeks. The US transportation department’s Federal Highway Administration says so. This is because the modular steel parts are manufactured long beforehand. Shorter disruption of traffic and economic activity. Concrete can take months to years to construct and cure before use.

• Modular steel bridges follow the European standard. That is, they should withstand a rolling load of 60-80 tons, as heavy as the NATO main battle tanks (eg., the US M1 Abrams). Steel spans that have anti-skid coatings do not shrink.

• Most steel bridges are built using soft foreign loans. Such overseas development assistance (ODA) require 25 percent to be outright grant. Repayment is spread over a longer period. In contrast, concrete span constructors require 30- to 50-percent down payment, with progress billings thereafter. The structure is fully paid for before it can have time to generate revenues. Thus economists favor ODA-funded steel spans.

Naser Albaghli
من قبل Naser Albaghli

It will always boil down to money.  Material prices will fluctuate all the time, then you need to evaluate the project cost if built by concrete or steel.

In my work we switch between both depending on the cost.  We do not make estimation for the project twice but we have the knowledge of prices of each material to start with.

Also Steel structure is faster to build than concrete espicially if it is big project.

Good Luck

mina hermina
من قبل mina hermina , Project Coordination Manager , ORASCOM CONSTRUCTION

By engineering view it depends on a lot of issues to solve like span and height , but i go for combined system between RC and Steel :)

Taha Ali
من قبل Taha Ali , intern , memar al morshedy

both materials work but material choice depends on types of moving loads and the seismic forces as well

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