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We issued one policy, one manual and one set of procedures for 14001 and 18001, do you think It is better if (ISO) issues only one standard for both?

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Question added by Mohamed Gaber , Quality & Development General Manager , International Company For Food Industries
Date Posted: 2013/08/19
haitham shady
by haitham shady , Quality Manager , Engineering for manifactruring Company

the same structure for the two standards, the same NO. of clauses, almost the same activities, but differand scope.

it's a matter of bussiness more than thing leads to improvement.

any standard dosn't evaluate the organization againest it's improvement and achieveing targets is just bussiness , so, as much as standards as much as bussiness

Prabhakar Shetty
by Prabhakar Shetty , “Vice President - Health, Safety & Environment and Corporate Responsibility” , ISS A/S

Yes, IMS Standards(Itegrated Management System).
Which may also club ISO9001:2008 and include ISO22301:2012 for BCMS.

Raouf Borni
by Raouf Borni , QA Manager , Obeikan Folding Company

OHSAS18001 is a British standard and not part of the ISO family standards. But what’s the problem if integrated within the implementation and keep standards as it is 

YOUSEF TAANY
by YOUSEF TAANY , Sr. HSSE Manager EPMO , Dar Al Handasah

Sure that IMS, is better for any organisation.

Jesty Joseph Mathews
by Jesty Joseph Mathews , Lead Auditor , TUV SUD Middle East LLC

Remember,18001 is not an ISO Standard

Pushpendra Soni Psoni
by Pushpendra Soni Psoni , manager , Anuj Mines Minerals and Chemicals

I think , for less documentation we need adopt IMS system with EMS and Safty Related issue we done One Police with suport14001 and18001 standards .

سميرة مطر
by سميرة مطر , مهندس سلامة وصحة مهنية وحماية بيئة , يتروجت للاستشارات الفنية و الخدمات البترولية

yes certainly , IMS system is better than implementation of iso14001 only or ohsas18001  

Ahmed Abdel-Salam
by Ahmed Abdel-Salam , Projects Manager , Ever Green Energy

No, each standard should be separated than others, as every organization can slecect the suitable management standard for it is activity.

but for organization can build its management system as integrated system and i think it is usefull.

 

Syed Tahir Ali
by Syed Tahir Ali , manager , engineering factory

yes i thnk it can be include in ISO too coz it si littel changing jsut for diffrrent companies to makign money it does not effect on quality or quantity just game of documentation..if only one  complete comprihensive certificate be issued  may be more usefull and simple to implementation

Md. Iqbal Hossen
by Md. Iqbal Hossen , HSE Senior Executive , Holcim Cement (BD) Ltd, a Switzerland based multinational Company

No.

Mohamed Attia Ibrahim Attia
by Mohamed Attia Ibrahim Attia , quality and food safety manager at SEDRA group , سدرة للحلويات والمعجنات

I agree with Mr. haitham shady answer

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