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Is it Possible to issue a Purchase Order with unit cost only (i.e. without quantity and without Total Value)?

For example if I need to order a labour from a service provider.

Rate is fixed and known but we do not know for how long will be needed.

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Question ajoutée par Moustafa Abouelsaad , Procurement & Logistics Director , Al-Kharafi Construction, Kuwait
Date de publication: 2016/10/31
Hussain  Alshagrawi
par Hussain Alshagrawi , Freelancer Consultant , Freelancer

There are (3) major factors which should not be ignored in any agreement (PO or Contract); Price, Quantity &/ Duration (assuming Quality is agreed to).

Failure of indicating any of the above would impact both legal & procedural issues.

For example, you need open authority to approve the agreement?!

This is a violation of the Authority Matrix as there are no open authority except for the BOD in some organizations.

Open quantity or duration will lead to an uncontrolled supply and will leave the company wide-open for future liability?! who will be ready to take the risk?

In addition, it will deviate from the basic principle of Procurement, which is commitment of the agreement from Vendor side. He can easily draw back at any time if he feels harmed by such agreement since there are no commitment to quantity or duration.

Therefore, at least two of the (3) factors have to be specified in any agreement.

As for Blanket Purchase Order, Total Value alone can be acceptable but not unit rate alone in my opinion.

I can see very limited cases where only Unit rate is used that is (Cost-Plus) work provided a detailed and quantitative scope of work is defined.

 Even in such cases, you may run into the authority issue.

Nadeem Asghar
par Nadeem Asghar , Supply Chain Consultant/Trainer , Independent Practitioner

Yes this can be done and such orders are known as Blanket Purchase Orders.

A blanket purchase order involves a purchaser agreeing to purchase particular goods or services from a specific vendor, but not at any specific quantity. Pricing may or may not be confirmed in a blanket purchase order. This type of order is typically used for repetitive procurement of a specific set of items from a supplier such as basic materials and supplies. This a preferable option if the quantity required is not clear.

Md Fazlur Rahman
par Md Fazlur Rahman , Procurement Specialist , Engineering and Planning Consultants Ltd

I agree with the concept of blanket purchase order to make the repetitive procurement hassle free.

In blanket purchase order for repetitive procurement, unit cost is mentioned  and maximum  total value that can be ordered in this PO within a given time frame is also mentioned.

The total value must correspond to the delegated authority of the person who signs the purchase order.

The total value is mentioned in Purchase Order to prevent mistake or misuse, so that system will prompt when the total value is going to exceed. In case of necessity, PO is amended again with higher total value by the appropriate authority/signatory

Prasad Thangavel
par Prasad Thangavel , Purchase Officer , OSMAK ENGINEERING & CONTRACTING LLC

THIS IS AN OPEN PURCHASE ORDER WHERE UNIT RATE IS AGREED. THE RATE SHALL BE VALID UNTIL FURTHER AMENDMENT. MATERIAL SHALL BE PROVIDED BY SUPPLIER UPON EMAIL REQUEST FROM COMPANY AND INVOICE CAN BE SUBMITTED AGAINST THIS PURCHASE ORDER.

Terrence Walmsley
par Terrence Walmsley , Owner , The Awesome Group of Companies

I have not seen this done, so I am going to say...no. A purchase order is in itself, a binding contract. If it is incomplete or has holes in it, then you may be shutting the door for compensation if things go wrong.

If you are looking to secure a volume of product at a certain fixed rate, then go to contact or fixed price agreement. These would be the safer option.

Jiyaul huq Sulthan
par Jiyaul huq Sulthan , Procuement & Contract Manager , Retrofit Electromechanical Cont LLC

it can be possible to place the purchase order with unit cost with following condition

 

1. If the product or the service to be purchase frequently (monthly/weekly) for certain period of time(for example: 6 months/1 year).

2. Terms of payment to be fixed (by cash against each order / invoice every month / invoice yearly once)

 

Imran Khan
par Imran Khan , Logistics Manager , Transmed Overseas Incorporated

No its not possible; even if you do so the PO will be incomplete.

Utilisateur supprimé
par Utilisateur supprimé

May I suggest, you can have a PO without Qty, but it should have a price or total price as it maybe a preliminary cost and the price is not to exceed a certain value, however, it would not have a qty at the initial stage as long as it said so on the PO.

 

osama khalifa
par osama khalifa , sourcing manager , Toshiba

i think that current trading environment does not accept such proposal , because quantity affect on cost , in the same time you got best cost according to big volume and vise versa

 

for your example labour is another issue because service provider may fix one labour cost , so quantity not affect < daily or weekly or monthly cost you will be charged >

Elke Woofter
par Elke Woofter , Project Assistant , American Technical Associates

You want to purchase a service... therefore you can issue a service PO...

This PO does not state the total value in the system till it is received ... it also has other draw backs ...

It does not show what you have spend torwards your budget ... your Controller may not like this type of PO and forbits it to issue ... reciving it is not an issue, however for an unexperienced A/P Clerk it may issues....

Blanket PO's are not recomanded for this kind of purchase.

I would do a regular PO issue it with qty 1 and the total price ... if you can not issue a  Service PO

I have added a link to read up on this type of PO..please see below... Please  be aware this looks different on differerent "ERP-systems"

 

Service Purchase Order - Guru99

www.guru99.com/service-purchase-order.html   Sep 1, 2016 - Service purchase orders are entered for services that are procured internally or externally. These purchase orders are different from standard ones as they don't require a goods receipt since they have no stock. Other than that, there are a few small differences in PO creation.

Eddy Balaa
par Eddy Balaa , Supply Chain Manager , M. H. Alshaya Company

Yes it's possible in cases when you don't know the exact quantity you need and you agreed on a price with the supplier. 

N.B :  - Price isn't related to quantity purchased. 

           - Large quantities are available at the suppliers stock 

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