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Can implementation of ISO 220 standard replace ISO 9001 standard in food plants? I'll be happy to hear your opinion

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Question ajoutée par galal mohammed , QA&QC Manager , Egitto for French fries manufacturing – Roto Group
Date de publication: 2013/12/30
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(I think you mean ISO22000)

I would say a definite NO. ISO22000 is a food safety standard, while ISO9001 is a quality management standard - two different orientations. Compare the two standards. They're very different. See detailed overviews of the two standards here 

mohamed sabeen
par mohamed sabeen , QHSE Manager , Novus catering service

Thanks for your answer Mr.Wael Essid, but I found many common subjects in the2 standards especially that it is expected to implement them both in an integrated system, refferring to management commitmment, process, control, audits, etc. In addition there are specific subjects for food industry in ISO22000 that are not included in ISO9001. Can you or anybody mention what are the demands in ISO9001 that are not included in ISO22000?

So, we can implement both as an integrated systems , in fact there are many conmmon procedures..... the audits you can do it only if you have integrated auditors or you could audit with experts of food safety and quality systems.

Ahmad Khreasat
par Ahmad Khreasat , Risk and Quality Officer , Royal Scientific Society - Policies & Risk Dept.

Actually ISO22000 is more detailed than ISO9001. 

but can't it replace ISO9001? hmm..... i don't think so.

 

the similarity of requirements is one thing, but the scope is a completely different thing.

This plays great deals in interrupting the ISO requirements 

 

For example: ISO9001 have a clear statement about customer focus, & customer communication. It require you to check business and product quality.

So an ISO9001 system may require you to have a customer satisfaction survey regarding "Price, Turn Around Time, Serviceability ....etc." but this is not required in ISO22001

 

ISO9001 may require KPI for Quality such as Inventory Turn Over, Mean Time Between Failure, or Income. 

but you can't interrupt ISO220001 to do the same.

 

 

and it works vice versa.

 

ISO22001 require to do Risk Analysis, but does ISO9001 require that?

 

The intended scope will play a part of the standard interpretation.

 

The similarity helps you to have an integrated management system

Raouf Borni
par Raouf Borni , QA Manager , Obeikan Folding Company

No, the purpose and the scope of the ISO22000 (food safety management system) is to provide a product free of hazards, meanwhile the scope of purpose of ISO9001 satisfy your customer ( including the hygiene of the product), the effectiveness of your quality management system ( not product quality) in additional with complying with legal and other requirement 

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Unfortunately, ISO9001 is more public than ISO22000. There is no need to replace the ISO9001, but if you are interested to implement a HACCP system, then you should go for ISO22000 because the purpose of it is to combine the ISO9001 & HACCP certificates in1 certificate.

Mohamed Elsawy
par Mohamed Elsawy , Quality Assurance Manager , Tamimi Markets

ALL ISO STANDERS ARE BUILT UPON ISO9001, ANY UPDATING IN ISO9001 AFFECT ALL OTHER ISO STANDERS.

 

ISO9001 MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT OF  ALL FACILITY ACTIVITIES NOT ONLY FOOD CHAIN ACTIVITIES

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